Gen 9 uu viability reddit Want to contribute? Drop it here on Stunfisk! Members Online. I get your point but reality is mons are generally being Min/Maxed more from a stat perspective and have better offensive tools. ADMIN MOD Gen 9 uu nat dex. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion Skip to main content Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, It's gonna be interesting how much gen 9 will affect UU. As a bit of a rant, I’m usually a decent player who hovers around the high 1500s-low 1600s. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, The first post-dlc SV UU viability ranking Article about Gen 5 Power Creep talks about Power Creep in stats, Sandstorm had always remain the best weather throughout each Gen before Gen 5 introduced Drizzle and Drought in OU but currently in Gen 9 Snow (formerly known as Hail) got a massive buff in Gen 9 by boosting Ice type Defense by 50% and Alolan Ninetales returned, Sand has definitely become the worst weather out of the 3. Arceus-Ghost and Shaymin-Sky have been unbanned in Ubers UU! 2. In the future, the voters for each viability ranking will now have to specify a cutoff for which they consider a pokemon to be OU, and instead of the cutoff between OU and UU being tied to a specific gap between viability tiers (which breaks down if new tiers end up being created), the cutoff will now be placed at the worst pokemon that more than 50% of voters consider to be OU. 130 base Special Attack Draco Meteor in a meta without Fairy-types and when most Steel-types are both tasked with handling Outrages from all the other Dragon-types alongside Magnezone making them trappable makes it difficult to reliably deal with, especially when other Dragon-types and the prevalence of entry hazards pre-defog can wear them down alongside the chunks r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Hello I was wondering if anyone can find the up to date UU viability ranking as I can't seem to find it Share Sort by: Best. Paladin dungeon tanking is good. If Lugia was a Gen 9 mon they would have reworked/adjusted it’s stats/niche for modern competitive. Don't get me wrong, Dugtrio is still good, especially since it traps 3 of the best mons in the tier (Ttar, Jirachi, Heatran) along with a couple others, but Dugtrio is quite a bit more skill-intensive and risky in gen 4, which is probably why it ended up in UU at the end of the generation despite being A- in the gen 4 viability. usage =/= viability. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, National Dex UU Viability Rankings Update 4/10/24 (Iron Hands to S rank) Smogon News smogon. Making a team centered around Orbeetle Other Metagame Team Building Does a pokemon's competitive viability influence how much you personally On the other end, sometimes Pokemon will become viable years after the Generation is current, causing its tier to not reflect its viability. Best. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Not only is Darkrai in Ubers UU, they are even outranked in viability by the completely unevolved Cutiefly. The stuff that outspeeds it (most of whom OHKO a mon with Lando-I’s pathetic bulk) is more common than ever, and the stuff it outspeeds is paired with Giratina-O, which walls it. 286 votes, 122 comments. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion Viability is a weird concept. The only mon of those 6 that wasn't nerfed in gen 9 is Ttar, who briefly fell to uu last gen anyways. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, I wonder where can I find Gen 8 National Dex VRs? The first post-dlc SV UU viability ranking 133 votes, 42 comments. But his opportunities to come in on most of the meta's Steel- and Fairy-types and fire off a high burn rate, high power move like Sacred Fire is For one I do want to make it clear that Raikou wasn't very good in OU in Gen 6 but it rose up mostly as a good counter to Thundurus who was super prominent for a long time in the meta. it would be pretty good in UU, perhaps even OU pre-gen 9 199K subscribers in the stunfisk community. I’m currently trying to build a team with moxie-Salamence at its core. Their dominance has a notable effect on teambuilding and the dynamics of the tier. There are 119 mons listed on the DPP UU Viability Rankings at the moment, and the tier revolves less around Venusaur+Milotic+Arcanine/Moltres and more around the concept of the Fire/Water/Grass core. It works on Gen 9 OU and Gen 9 Doubles OU. Open comment sort options r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. com Open. This is a list of all the viable Pokemon in SV Ubers, sorted top-to-bottom from most to least viable, not ordered Is there a place where we can see the full viability rankings for the current meta as opposed to just the updates? Houston (/ ˈ h juː s t ən / ⓘ HEW-stən) is the most populous city in the U. 206K subscribers in the stunfisk community. 201K subscribers in the stunfisk community. 101 Speed is just too slow for Gen 9 Ubers. This lead to a bunch of mons that, though probably fine to include in UU, if they were seen as having substantial viability in OU, then they were tiered as BL instead. Iirc (and please correct me on this if I'm wrong), but it was essentially viability-based, with tiering being decided by the high level players of the day. Top. It’s no secret that greninja severely fell off in gen 9. Entei isn't good , you wouldn't slap him on a team to patch up holes like you would Lando-T, Clef, Pex, Rillaboom, Corv, etc. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, The Current State of Gen 9 OU Stinkpost Stunday Locked post. ). " Then I hyped myself up thinking it could still have some use because a lot of its sets were supportive anyways. All depends how players adapt to the common partners for illusion. if someone is aggro-whoring slap blessing of salvation on them for 30%less threat-gen, . Gastrodon was one of the better pokemon in SS OU but is not OU. One good prediction by the opponent and that’s a KO’d Zoroark as it’s not living anything with that bulk. Crobat, diggersby, noivern, togekiss and raikou in SS UU are pretty darn viable in UU but not used enough unfortunately. But its support would be valuable in tiers above. Controversial. 25 votes, 16 comments. Both Torn and Zap lost defog which is a really big blow to their utility. It hasn't even had any sort of descent within the tier like other former staples have- Garchomp and Tyranitar had their time as the defining mons in the tier but slowly became less and less central before dropping. smogon r/stunfisk Crazy how even back then these 3 were around the top ten, truly the GOATs of Gen 9 if you consider the two banned even before this chart was posted, then gambit is #9. Usually I had respect for smogon and their bans seem reasonable, but when Chien-Pao was banned and then not a few minutes later Espathra was also banned, I knew something was off. Scream tail is just good there "Low Viability" rn is sort of a clusterfuck of different viability levels (p much everything that has a use case at all no matter how niche qualifies for it, looking at stuff like PZ and Feraligatr being included). It actually has better stats than AshGren after the activation, especially in the speed department which helps when Booster Energy sweepers are a thing. Q&A. VGC Team Building Read title. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion TL;DR a lot of the bans and quickbans in Gen 8 UU were really bad, hasty and/or far too harsh. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, Lapras has been Unbanned from ADV UU Kyurem Suspect Test in Gen 9 OU r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Drop it here on Stunfisk! Members Online • RoyalWindow9601. I dont think the items you said will do much, its problem is that its stats are in the wrong places lol. Dex. 176K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Use over 30 new Field Effects for even more layers of In Gen IV I think people are very wary of UU and OU sparkies carrying Signal Beam and would be reluctant to switch grass into one just in case. What can I do to improve my sets not mons (keeping garchomp in OU and gettig T-Tar to OU (i forgot to change azumarill and glimmoras tera type Firstly, both ultra and dusk mane necro are top tier offensive threats that darkeus walls and Ohko back with foul play, and deals with non focus blast Mmy as a bonus. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, I haven’t played much gen 9 ubers but unless things are really different there from gen 9 OU I’d run taunt or rest instead of acrobatics on annihilape (Gen 9 UU) upvotes r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC OU Team Building IK Gen 9 just came out 1-2 days ago, but I've spent about two hours on this team, and I've won 8/10 (one of the people used destiny bond when we were both on our last pokemon, so not sure if it's a win or a If you want a more balanced meta game, I recommend going back to past generations such as gen 3, gen 4, or gen 8. Was like that on the DLC1 and to a lesser degree the Home viability list as well. r/stunfisk • NEW SV OU Post-HOME Viability Rankings (TTar finally went to UR) smogon I actually havent done a gen 9 one yet. It never managed to drop to UU despite its low viability. think it's like, #7 when you remove chien-pao and chi-yu 150 votes, 123 comments. Gen 9 UU what should I change. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion I have no clue wtf is happening in gen 9 uu but I love armarouge and tinkaton characterization Reply reply Thoughts on this Gen 9 UU Team? [1000] Underused Gengar @ Choice Specs Ability: Cursed Body Tera Type: Ghost EVs: 252 SpA / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Timid Nature - Trick r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. 204K subscribers in the stunfisk community. For instance, Clefable is a top 5 pokemon in Gen 4 OU, but it was only found to be good after Gen 4 was no longer the most recent generation, so it's technically a UU Pokemon despite it being really good. Share Sort by: Best. Freeze-Dry for that perfect STAB combo would be nice but not at all a guarantee for viability (Lapras has had it and couldn't even carve out The funniest thing to me is that when I 1st thought of the idea, it was just "haha swap offenses to kill all viability. As it turns out, there are many different Fire, Water, and Grass types and quite a few mons that can batter the FWG core with their coverage or STABs. It can basically never take advantage of its montrous attack. Freeze-Dry for that perfect STAB combo would be nice but not at all a guarantee for viability (Lapras has had it and couldn't even carve out I think it could Possibly fall down to UU, with the similarly stat-distributed Scream Tail. Located in Southeast Texas near Galveston Bay and the Gulf of Treads in S, Garchomp in S-, Garg Gren Zapdos A+, Mola Azu Cerul Moth Corner Sciz in A. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, Members Online • phillipAmorris . Old. state of Texas and the Southern United States. WOKE GEN 9 OU upvotes We’ll see when/if it’s released for gen 9. They may fall out, but they will always be viable to a degree, which is a step up from the previous generations. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. It would definitely be possible, gen 1 isn't completely frozen as UU in that generation came after UU was invented and there tiers are determined by viability ranking and gen 3 has shifted stuff between OU and UUBL to represent meta trends, but for the most part later generations seem to agree that it's just not a big deal to make Snorlax's analysis page represent the latest trends in The sheer amount of quickbans present in the early gen 9 meta has shown that Smogon has completely relinquished any hope of letting the metagame settle and develop naturally. Pokémon Showdown is a free, web-based battle simulator. 16 votes, 20 comments. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, RMT Gen 9 UU Other Metagame Team Building LongMayHeReign (Staraptor) @ Choice Band Ability: Reckless Shiny: Yes Tera Type: Flying EVs: 252 Atk / 4 SpD / 252 Spe Gen 9 OU team Beginner struggling But those tournaments happen frequently enough that there is still room and desire for innovation. I can totally see aegislash becoming the next forever UUBL Mon unless powercreep pushes a bunch of mons out of OU viability/usage. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion 196 votes, 26 comments. Weather teams have also seen a rise, no longer being seen as matchup fishy gimmicks but as legitimate threats. 208K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Rate My Gen 9 UU Team Other Metagame Team Building Hello everyone! I am new here! I have recently gotten into playing showdown. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, articles, analyses, Gen 9 Random Battles Tier List. New. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, [Gen 9 OU] How can I improve my team? More info in comments OU Team Building Arceus-Ghost and Shaymin-Sky have been unbanned in Ubers UU! 2. I feel like Quaq is probably worse Here's our first viability rankings for the Ubers UU metagame. Open comment sort options. Are there any good stall or defensive teams in gen 9 uu? I‘m new to the tier and would like to try out a new playstyle so I was wondering whether [Gen 9]Doubles UU comments. Oricorio-Pom Pom going from PU to being a UU staple from Gen 7 to Gen 9 r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, articles, Gen 9 UU memes (Featuring Gastrodon from BW OU!) SV OU DLC 1 Viability List. Share Why do people feel like randbats is less balanced this gen when objective metrics suggest it's more balanced than in the past? 206K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Obligatory Megas for Gen 6 Starters 3. Gen 9 is so power crept that the already worst board legendary was tested in OU like gen 8 but its base form was allowed to stay. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion Porygon2 and PorygonZ continue to be a close pair in terms of viability, but no longer held at the very bottom but now have legitimate uses. Nowadays, thundurus has fallen off hard, and raikou isn’t used at all. Moltres by itself doesn't fit the gen 9 ou standard, but with it's typing and ability, it beats a lot of staple mons and will force out a tera bc of its really solid spA. r/pokemonshowdown. 196K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Last gen Drill was in uu and Lati was uubl, being C rank on the ou VR. I hope you enjoy and please lmk if anyone has any suggestions! Arceus-Ghost and Shaymin-Sky have been unbanned in Ubers UU! 2. Gen 5 ou sun viability! Discussion This is a discussion on sun team viability If you what some info: I built a sun team just to find out that it was awesome and had no counters Walrein would've been really neat in gen 9 Drops below UU for sure and Alolan Ninetales is never getting lower than that. 94 votes, 30 comments. S- Pokemon are Pokemon that are a step above the rest of the A+ Pokemon but may not be as centralizing or potent as another S tier. It can also choose to run either spD or Def bc of it's ability to burn everything in sight, making it either a defense monster or an annoying mixed defenses menace. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion 158 votes, 45 comments. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, Members Online • NuzlockeKing . r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, Massive Changes to Gen 9 Balanced Hackmons: Mega Evolutions + Dex Cuts Returning! smogon Shoutout to my boy Haxorus for making UU so much more fun. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon [Gen 9] National Dex UU upvotes r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, articles, SV UU DLC 1 Viability List . Gren wasn't even in gen 8, and both its abilities got severely nerfed going into gen 9. I think top tier UU is a good prediction for now, but I wouldn’t be surprised if it ends up in middle-top tier OU. But no lol, it just kills viability because I didn't understand the point of running it for support. Hello!~ This is a subreddit for the fangame called *Pokémon Reborn* It's an emerald style game for PC featuring all content through Generation 7, with gym leaders of all 18 types. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, Dude's shitposting right in the midle of viability ranking lmao. SV UU Post-Home Viability Rankings. 180K subscribers in the stunfisk community. What exactly does it do in the tier? Seems like there are a decent amount of Bellibolt would definitely rank extremely highly on my list of “most forgettable fully-evolved Gen 9 mons” if I ever remembered it exists (it’s probably up there with fucking Rabsca, a mon I don’t Last gen Drill was in uu and Lati was uubl, being C rank on the ou VR. 205K subscribers in the stunfisk community. <3 Terrakion in A- utterly crushing the mid allegations Metagross' glowup from hopelessly powercrept and outdated pseudo to A Rank UU mon is beautiful as well. (i forgot to change azumarill and glimmoras tera type) (gen 9 uu) [Gen 9] National Dex UU upvotes r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. Complaining about an abundance of tiering action sounds like a meme but I seriously feel like Gen 8 UU was beat down into the ground aggressively. If the gen had gone on for a little bit longer, it would have fallen to UU, but once a tier stops being the current one, tier shifts stop, so it can’t fall anymore. 186K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Also, Electabuzz has good elemental coverage, including Fire Punch and Ice Punch, which he could be carrying for lots of reasons but both of which will 2HKO most Grass types that aren't prepared. Add a Comment. BUT you have to lean hard into the leader role, make sure to mark targets and not allow allies to AOE the same instant you pull. It's the Gen 9 version, and G9 Battle Bond Greninja is still pretty fucking good. 200K subscribers in the stunfisk community. I’m fairly new to ‘roles’ within a team but this is my first proper attempt following a guide. 193K subscribers in the stunfisk community. New comments cannot be posted. Its only flaw is its comically low Attack and Special stats which prevents it from actually 179K subscribers in the stunfisk community. In Ubers, it would stay mostly the Same, setting up Dual-Screens, Rapid Spinning, & Volt Switching. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, The first post-dlc SV UU viability ranking Made my first Gen 9 competitive team, any suggestions for improvement? View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. 187K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Gen 9 OU offensive rain team, need help teambuilding r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. Share SV OU Indigo Disk Viability Rankings Released Tardigrade - THE face of Big Stall this gen. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, New RBY UU Viability Rankings- Golem rises to UU! (among other changes) Smogon News smogon. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon, and all other battle formats. It would likely also end up doing that in OU, & possibly UU as well. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion View community ranking In the Top 1% of largest communities on Reddit. Only gets worse after the home update. S. Koraidon and Myraidon essentially have 2 abilities we could give some buffs to the older mons for sure. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion it dropped to UU, but that was ladder weirdness really, Gren didn't actually suffer any big hits in viability beyond maybe the rise of AV Pex (but not like it enjoyed taking on other 63 votes, 24 comments. The thing that got this vote to happen was a recent UU team tournament where Slurpuff did r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, So you can't compare apples-to-apples B+ in DPP to B+ in SV for viability. Gen 9 UU Salamence moxie sweep. Walrein would've been really neat in gen 9 Drops below UU for sure and Alolan Ninetales is never getting lower than that. Articles. Thundurus-I was absolutely everywhere during XY, and AV raikou was a really good stop to it. I think there are some broken combinations even if you exclude straight up ridiculous I've been playing Showdown a lot during gen 6 and 7 but haven't engaged much in gen 8 and 9, since Infinite Fusion is based 284 votes, 97 comments. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, It works on Gen 9 OU and Gen 9 Doubles OU. I said once as a joke that the council suspects all the good mons and unironically that's kinda close to where we're at. 417 votes, 37 comments. Gen 9 Random Battles Tier List. Meanwhile Tsareena - who also lost these coverage moves - has risen from its NU placement last gen to B+ in UU. Competitive viability UU, Ubers etc. Mostly because its just another natdex for it and gen 9 has added yet more powercreep. I put down gen 9 for a while and picked it back up this week, attempting to use my favorite play style of balance. This gen's UU truly is this gen's OU. Gren wasn't even in gen 8, and both its abilities For those who are unfamiliar, in the Viability Rankings we come together as a community with a goal to rank every viable Pokemon within the SV UU metagame into ranks Hello and welcome to the Post-Home Scarlet and Violet UU Viability Rankings! For those who are unfamiliar, in the Viability Rankings we come together as a community with a Here, we come together as a community with a goal to rank every viable Pokemon within the SV UU metagame into ranks indicating their dominance and effect in the tier. 130 base Special Attack Draco Meteor in a meta without Fairy-types and when most Steel-types are both tasked with handling Outrages from all the other Dragon-types alongside Magnezone making them trappable makes it difficult to reliably deal with, especially when other Dragon-types and the prevalence of entry hazards pre-defog can wear them down alongside the chunks Doubles OU doesn't have an item clause, so you could do lefties on that pult. Old gen OU tiers see much more play, since they are the main tier and have a permanent ladder. 212K subscribers in the stunfisk community. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, articles, analyses, and competitive 16 votes, 20 comments. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion 212K subscribers in the stunfisk community. Mon really just needed a small moveset push to be relevant Hosted by Monky25 and Lily Hello and welcome to the very first Scarlet and Violet UU Viability Rankings! Here, we come Home. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion for Pokémon VGC, Smogon Prior to the more recent tier shift changes at the end of a generation, this was already a problem even in the currently played generations, with examples like Jolteon/Typhlosion in most generations, Joey ralling his community to spam Ambipom to force it to rise to UU from NU even though it isn't viable in UU, Azelf rising to Gen 6 OU, Mesprit rising to SM NU, and the recent S and S-: The best of the best Pokemon, being extremely splashable and versatile, having high consistency, and shaping the tier’s development. Can live almost anything and pretty much ignores all status and has access to reliable recovery as well. However, the doubles OU metagame is completely different from singles OU, and it includes incredibly powerful threats such as chien-pao, chi-yu, all ogerpon forms, and iron hands. 123 votes, 19 comments. smogon Mirnshao somehow likes to become more annoying each gen Torterra about to smash on ru Heatran dropping out of viability feels like the kind of thing you'd hear in an end times prophecy. r/Stunfisk is your reddit source for news, analyses, and competitive discussion 950 votes, 189 comments. kox kmhgh ezwdz ytb jkhj oiqrfwvb mhh gbgifdv bbnqh sxft